The Final Countdown – 11/8/23 – Winners and Losers of Latest U.S. Elections

On this episode of the Final Countdown, hosts Ted Rall and Angie Wong discussed a plethora of topics from around the globe, including the latest results from the U.S. elections. 
 
Steve Hayes – Tax Attorney
Scottie Nell Hughes – Political Commentator
Mitch Roschelle – Media Commentator and Finance Expert
Robert Fantina – Author, Journalist and Activist
Alan Grayson – Political Commentator and Former Congressman
 
In the first half hour, Final Countdown spoke to a panel composed of Scottie Nell Hughes and Steve Hayes about the latest U.S. elections. 
 
To conclude the first hour, Mitch Roschelle spoke to Final Countdown about the stopgap funding and the ramifications of the potential government shutdown next week. 
 
To kickoff the second hour, Final Countdown discussed the latest from Gaza with Robert Fantina, who provided his analysis on the Netanyahu-Biden relationship. 
 
In the final half hour of the show, Alan Grayson previewed the GOP debates with Final Countdown, while also touching on the main candidates for the Republican Party. 
 
 

The Final Countdown – 11/7/23 – Key U.S. Elections Kickoff in Several States

On this episode of The Final Countdown, hosts Angie Wong and Ted Rall discuss major topics, including key U.S. elections in several states. 
 

Steve Gill –  Attorney and CEO of Gill Media 

Tyler Nixon – Army Infantry Veteran 
Peter Coffin – Journalist, podcaster, & author 
Elijah Magnier – Veteran War Correspondent 
 
The show kicks off with Attorney Steve Gill breaking down the elections in several key states such as Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Mississippi, Rhode Island, and more. He discusses how the results could set the precedent for the 2024 elections. 
 
Then, Army Infantry Veteran Tyler Nixon weighs in on the latest out of Trump’s New York civil fraud trial. 
 
The second hour begins with Journalist, podcaster, and author Peter Coffin weighing in on Jim Jordan dropping a “bombshell” report that highlights the U.S. government’s role in social media censorship before the 2020 elections. 
 
The show closes with Elijah Magnier breaking down the latest out of the humanitarian crisis in Gaza as the death toll surpasses 10,000 and Israel’s ground invasion ramps up. 
 
 

The Final Countdown – 11/6/23 – Conflict Intensifies between Israel and Hezbollah Along Lebanese-Israeli Border

On this episode of The Final Countdown, hosts Angie Wong and Ted Rall discuss major topics, including fighting on the Israeli-Lebanese border. 
 

Esteban Carrillo  – Ecuadorean journalist, Editor for The Cradle 

Dan Lazare – Independent journalist and author 
Scott Stantis – Cartoonist for The Chicago Tribune 
Nebojsa Malic – Serbian American journalist
The show kicks off with Ecuadorean journalist and Editor for The Cradle sharing his perspective on the conditions out of Gaza as the death toll surpasses 10,000, the ongoing Israeli ground invasion and encircling of Gaza City, and clashes along the border of Lebanon and Israel. 
 
Then, Independent Journalist Dan Lazare joins The Final Countdown to share his perspective on the 2024 Presidential Elections, with Trump leading Biden in five battleground states. 
 
The second hour begins with Cartoonist for The Chicago Tribune Scott Stantis weighing in on the two major ballot initiatives in Ohio and the Democratic upset in the Mississippi governor race. 
 
The show closes with Serbian-American journalist Nebojsa Malic joining The Final Countdown to discuss Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s invitation to Trump to visit Ukraine. 
 
 

The Final Countdown – 11/3/23 – Hunter Biden Accuses Conservatives of Exploiting His Drug Addiction

On this episode of The Final Countdown, hosts Angie Wong and Ted Rall discuss a plethora of topics, including Hunter Biden’s op-ed. 
 
Esteban Carrillo – Editor for The Cradle 
Gerald Celente – Trends Journal Publisher 
Larry Ward – President of Constitutional Rights PAC 
Scott Stantis – Cartoonist for The Chicago Tribune 
 
The show kicks off with the Editor for The Cradle Esteban Carrillo discussing the Hezbollah leader’s speech on Gaza and Israel, Carrillo also shares his perspective on the Israeli ground invasion circling Gaza City. 
 
ThenTrends Journal Publisher Gerald Celente shares his insights on the House approving $14.5 billion in military aid to Israel. 
 
The second hour begins with President of Constitutional Rights PAC Larry Ward weighing in on a Connecticut judge tossing out the results of a Democratic mayoral primary. 
 
The show closes with Cartoonist Scott Stantis, who touches on the arrest of an Alabama newspaper’s publisher and reporter. Stantis also discusses Hunter Biden’s latest Op-ed. 
 

The Final Countdown – 11/2/23 – Israel Presses Forward in Gaza While Arab World Unifies in Support of Palestine

On this episode of The Final Countdown, hosts Angie Wong and Ted Rall discuss a plethora of topics, including the ongoing ground invasion of Gaza. 
 

Mohamed Gomaa– RT Journalist 

Steve Abramowicz – Owner, CEO of Mill Creek View/Host of Mill Creek View Podcast 

Armen Kurdian – Retired Navy Captain, Former City Council Candidate, Foreign & Domestic Policy Expert 
Dan Kovalik – Human Rights Lawyer 
 
The show kicks off with RT Journalist Mohamed Gomaa breaking down the latest out of Gaza, how Arab World leaders are supporting Palestine, the ongoing Israeli ground invasion, and the future of Netanyahu’s leadership. 
 
Then, Owner and CEO of Mill Creek View Steve Abramowicz, joins The Final Countdown to discuss Biden’s tour of rural America. 
 
The second hour begins with Retired Navy Captain Armen Kurdian joining to discuss the 7,000-person migrant caravan approaching the southern border and the Biden administration’s response. 
 
The show closes with Human Rights Lawyer Dan Kovalik sharing his perspective on RFK Jr. ‘s burgeoning performance in the polls and monetary support from past Trump donors. 
 
 

The Final Countdown – 10/31/23 – House Republicans Eye IRS Budget Cuts to Fund Israel

On this episode of The Final Countdown, hosts Angie Wong and Ted Rall discuss a wide range of news, including the House GOP unveiling aid to Israel. 
 
Dan Lazare – Independent journalist & author 
Armen Kurdian – Retired Army Captain 
Tyler Nixon – Army Infantry Veteran 
Robert Fantina – Author & journalist 
 
The show kicks off with Independent journalist & author Dan Lazare joining the show to discuss House Republicans releasing a $14.3 billion funding bill to Israel that would cut funding to the IRS. 
 
Then, Retired Army Captain Armen Kurdian weighs in on House Speaker Mike Johnson’s potential investigation into President Joe Biden. 
 
The second hour begins with Army Infantry Veteran Tyler Nixon breaking down the 14th Amendment hearing against Trump’s eligibility to run for president. 
 
The show closes with author & journalist Robert Fantina joining The Final Countdown to discuss the ongoing ground offensive in Gaza and Prime Minister Netanyahu saying that there will be no ceasefire. 
 
 

The Final Countdown – 10/30/23 – Israel Cuts Off Gaza’s Internet Access as Humanitarian Crisis Worsens

On this episode of The Final Countdown, hosts Angie Wong and Ted Rall discuss top news, including the latest out of Gaza. 
 
Issa Amro – Human Rights Activist 
Steve Gill – Attorney & CEO of Gill Media 
Lauren Fix – Auto Expert 
Nebojsa Malic – Serbian-American journalist 
 
The show kicks off with Hebron-based Human Rights Activist Issa Amro sharing his perspective on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza as the death toll rises as the ground invasion begins. 
 
 Then, Attorney & CEO of Gill Media Steve Gill joins to discuss the latest out of Trump’s legal woes, touching on the 14th amendment trial in Colorado, the reinstated gag order in the election case, and the New York fraud case. 
 
The second hour begins with Auto Expert Lauren Fix sharing her insights on UAW’s tentative agreement with GM, ending the strike against Detroit automakers. 
 
The show closes with journalist Nebojsa Malic breaking down the primary elections, specifically Biden’s no-show at the New Hampshire ballot.  
 
 

Israel Is Not Acting in “Self-Defense”

            “Thou shalt not kill” is probably the oldest and most widespread moral and legal edict in human civilization, common to nearly every culture. However, there is one universal exception: even in countries that prohibit capital punishment and euthanasia, murder is permitted in self-defense.

            At this writing, Israel has murdered more than 7,000 Gazan residents over the last three weeks. Israel and its supports say this bloodbath is justified as self-defense. “Israel has a right to defend itself and its people,” President Biden said on October 7th, hours after Hamas fighters killed more than 1,400 Israelis.

            Is it really “self-defense”?

            Israel is framing its war against Gaza as a nation’s legitimate right, under international law, to defend itself. “We are in a war for our sovereignty, for our existence, and we have set ourselves two fundamental objectives: to eradicate Hamas’s military and governmental capabilities and to do everything possible to bring the hostages held by the Palestinian Islamist group back home,” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told TV viewers. “There is no place for a balanced approach. Hamas must be erased off the face of the planet!” added Israeli Foreign Minister Eli Cohen.

            There is nothing balanced about Israel’s response. Carpet bombing has destroyed nearly half the homes in the Gaza Strip. Israel has killed many times more Palestinian civilians than it lost on October 7th. A ground invasion will unleash more misery and mayhem.

            Reasonable people may disagree over whether Israel’s response is justified or likely to prove effective.

No one should call it self-defense.

            International law clearly governs how a nation like Israel is supposed to respond to an attack like October 7th. Article 51 of the U.N. Charter permits “self-defense if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations”—the exact situation here—“until the [U.N.] Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security.” As a U.N. member state, Israel should have requested assistance from the Security Council. They still ought to.

            Israel’s claim to self-defense ended hours after the Hamas attack, when the IDF had killed or routed all Hamas fighters on Israeli territory and retaken control of the areas that had previously been overrun. The status quo ante was restored as of October 8th, with the exception of the more than 200 hostages seized from Israel and now held by Hamas in Gaza.

            After Israel secured the areas broached by Hamas, a different body of law applied. Israel’s bombing campaign, which began on October 8th, might only be justified as a preemptive act of self-defense—a military campaign to prevent future terrorist attacks by Hamas. The Bush Administration claimed that its invasion of Iraq fell into this category, but that war clearly failed the so-called “Caroline test” formulated by the U.S. in the 19th century and which now guides international law. In 1837, Secretary of State Daniel Webster declared that a nation-state could only justify the use of military force in a case of imminent threat that was “instant, overwhelming, leaving no choice of means, and no moment of deliberation” and, these conditions being satisfied, military action should be proportional: “nothing unreasonable or excessive; since the act, justified by the necessity of self-defense, must be limited by that necessity, and kept clearly within it.”

Self-defense is not a blank check for unlimited vengeance or retribution. Being angry or insulted or traumatized does not justify revenge. A nation-state is only permitted to apply the bare minimum of force necessary to repel or neutralize a threat.

That’s not what Israel is doing to Gaza. Dropping 8,000 bombs on a tiny densely-populated area, cutting power and communications and indiscriminate assaults are not needed to keep Hamas from reentering Israel. Netanyahu’s stated goal of regime change, toppling the Hamas government, is hardly a bare minimum requirement to reduce the threat to minimal levels. It is maximalist. It is illegal.

It is an obscenity.

If anyone doubted that Israel has already gone far beyond what is permitted under international law, the heated rhetoric of Israel’s leaders and its patron the U.S. make that clear: the State Department sent internal memos to its officials warning them not to use the phrases “de-escalation/ceasefire;” “end to violence/bloodshed” or “restoring calm.”

When you’re censoring calls for calm, you’re probably on the wrong side of the law.

What constitutes self-defense for a nation-state is similar to that for an individual. Laws in the U.S. vary by state; Florida’s “stand your ground” law grants more leeway than New York, which requires you to retreat if possible and only permits you to use deadly force if you believe you or someone else are at imminent risk of physical harm. Basically, though, self-defense as a defense to a murder or manslaughter charge ends when the threat, which must be substantial and likely to occur, ends.

May I kill a robber who points a gun at me? Maybe. The moment he drops his weapon and turns tail, however, the answer is no. If at that point an assailant has hurt and/or robbed me, it is completely understandable that I might want to chase him down and hurt him to get even. It would also be illegal.

What should I do, nothing? No. I should call the cops. For a nation-state the U.N., not Israel or the U.S., is the world’s policeman. Israel should request assistance from the U.N.

Of course, a threat does remain from Hamas. Specifically, Israeli hostages are in danger. Rockets are fired into Israel. But neither justifies carpet-bombing or a ground invasion.

Bombing actually imperils the hostages. Hamas’ primitive rockets without guidance systems kill an average of three Israelis a year. As deplorable and tragic as those killings are, a bombing campaign that has killed over 7,000 people in three weeks is wildly disproportionate under the Caroline test.

The “rules-based international order” has obviously broken down. Who can remember the last time U.N. troops parachuted into a crisis zone in order to establish peace and order, much less did it well? Israel can be forgiven for dismissing that option out of hand. But just because everyone breaks the rules doesn’t mean they’re not still the rules.

What Israel is doing can be characterized in many ways.

But it’s not “self-defense.”

(Ted Rall (Twitter: @tedrall), the political cartoonist, columnist and graphic novelist, co-hosts the left-vs-right DMZ America podcast with fellow cartoonist Scott Stantis. You can support Ted’s hard-hitting political cartoons and columns and see his work first by sponsoring his work on Patreon.)

DMZ America Podcast #122: We Have a Speaker! Meet the Woke Pulitzer Prize. Should Americans Pay for Ukraine and Israel’s Endless Wars?

Editorial cartoonists Ted Rall (from the Left) and Scott Stantis (from the Right) discuss newly-elected Speaker of the House of Representatives, Mike Johnson (R-LA) and the process that led to his ascension. Scott raises the possibility that Representative Matt Gaetz and the far right-wing Freedom Caucus played the Republicans in the House to get the most radically-right Speaker in the history of the institution. 

Next, Ted and Scott fill out the painfully woke questionnaire sent out by journalism’s most prestigious award, the Pulitzer Prizes administered by Columbia University. Listen, (and watch on YouTube), as the questions get progressively more politically correct. Making Ted rename the award “The Woke-litzer Prize.”

Finally, Ted and Scott discuss the question of the United States and its taxpayers spending billions and billions on the Ukraine and Israel wars. Should monies that might be better spent here at home be sent to conflicts that have very little to do with America? Scott and Ted take a deep dive into both and find disagreement over Israel as well as common ground over Palestine. 

Watch the Video Version of the DMZ America Podcast:

DMZ America Podcast Ep 122 Sec 1: We have a Speaker!

DMZ America Podcast Ep 122 Sec 2: Meet the Woke Pulitzer Prize

DMZ America Podcast Ep 122 Sec 3: Should Americans Pay for Ukraine and Israel’s Endless Wars?

The Final Countdown – 10/24/23 – Israel Faces Potential Two-Front War as Conflict Escalates

On this episode of The Final Countdown, hosts Angie Wong and Ted Rall discuss hot topics, including the latest out of Gaza. 
 
Elijah Magnier – Veteran War Correspondent 
Steve Gill – Attorney & CEO of Gill Media 
Nebojsa Malic – Serbian-American journalist 
Scott Stantis – Cartoonist for The Chicago Tribune 
 
The show kicks off with Veteran War Correspondent Elijah Magnier sharing his insights on the latest out of Gaza, as Hamas releases two more hostages. 
 
Then, Attorney & CEO of Gill Media Steve Gill shares his perspective on the latest out of Trump’s Georgia case, where another attorney has taken a plea deal. 
 
The second hour starts with Serbian-American journalist Nebojsa Malic discussing Russia’s and the U.S.’s perspective on the need to build a “new world order.” 
 
The show closes with Cartoonist for The Chicago Tribune Scott Stantis weighs in on the House Speakership crisis. 
 
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