DMZ America Podcast #123: Passions Flair Over Gaza, Does Dean Phillips’ Presidential Bid Matter? The Weird 14th Amendment Case in Colorado

Passions flair as Editorial Cartoonists Ted Rall (for the Left) and Scott Stantis (for the Right) discuss Israel’s war against Hamas in Gaza. Is Israel practicing self-defense or apartheid? Are the actions of either side even remotely justified? Scott, who supports Israel, and Ted get into it with  verve and more than a little zeal. 
 

Next, they turn to domestic issues to discuss Congressman’s Dean Phillips (D-MN) announcement that he will run for the Democratic Party presidential nomination in the New Hampshire primary and presumably beyond. New Hampshire was a primary President Joe Biden decided to skip. Does Representative Phillips’ campaign matter? (Sidelight: Ted Rall’s short-lived presidential ambitions are dashed by the Congressman’s announcement!) 

Lastly, some folks in Colorado are trying to use an obscure section of the 14th Amendment to keep former President Donald Trump off of the 2024 ballot in Colorado and other states. While neither Ted nor Scott is a MAGA person, they share their strong opinions on this topic. 

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DMZ America Podcast Ep 123 Sec 1: Passions Flair Over Gaza

DMZ America Podcast Ep 123 Sec 2: Does Dean Phillips’ Presidential Bid Matter?

DMZ America Podcast Ep 123 Sec 3: The Weird 14th Amendment Case in Colorado

 

The Final Countdown – 10/24/23 – Israel Faces Potential Two-Front War as Conflict Escalates

On this episode of The Final Countdown, hosts Angie Wong and Ted Rall discuss hot topics, including the latest out of Gaza. 
 
Elijah Magnier – Veteran War Correspondent 
Steve Gill – Attorney & CEO of Gill Media 
Nebojsa Malic – Serbian-American journalist 
Scott Stantis – Cartoonist for The Chicago Tribune 
 
The show kicks off with Veteran War Correspondent Elijah Magnier sharing his insights on the latest out of Gaza, as Hamas releases two more hostages. 
 
Then, Attorney & CEO of Gill Media Steve Gill shares his perspective on the latest out of Trump’s Georgia case, where another attorney has taken a plea deal. 
 
The second hour starts with Serbian-American journalist Nebojsa Malic discussing Russia’s and the U.S.’s perspective on the need to build a “new world order.” 
 
The show closes with Cartoonist for The Chicago Tribune Scott Stantis weighs in on the House Speakership crisis. 
 

DMZ America Podcast #121: Israel Playing Into Hamas’ Plans, House Speaker Crisis, Biden’s Terrifying Speech

Editorial Cartoonists Ted Rall (from the political Left) and Scott Stantis (from the political Right) discuss national and international events of the week.

First up: as we enter the third week of the war between Hamas and Israel in the Gaza Strip, there are rising fears of regional escalation. Has Hezbollah agreed to open a second front against Israel? Will Iran attack Israel? How long will it take Israel to overthrow the Hamas government and what kind of regime do they plan to install if and when they succeed? Right now, it looks like they are poised to repeat the mistakes America made in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya.

In the second segment of the podcast, Ted and Scott discuss the constitutional crisis created by the Republican Party’s inability to choose a Speaker of the House of Representatives. Steve, Scalise and Jim Jordan are both out. Will the speakership ultimately wind up in the hands of an obscure congressman? In the meantime, congressional business has ground to a standstill.

Finally, Ted and Scott react to President Biden’s second Oval Office speech since he became president. Squinting, unable to read the Teleprompter, tripping over his words and slurring, this was an extremely disturbing performance that seems to belie Democrats’ claim that he is a viable candidate for 2024. Will he resign? Step aside mid-campaign? Or try to muddle through somehow to reelection? Scott and Ted also discuss the substance of Biden’s speech: his attempt to link the Ukraine and Israel conflicts.

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DMZ America Podcast Ep 121 Sec 1: Israel Playing Into Hamas’ Plans

DMZ America Podcast Ep 121 Sec 2: House Speaker Crisis

DMZ America Podcast Ep 121 Sec 3: Biden’s Terrifying Speech

Israel Should Respond, Not React

            In the days and weeks and months and years after 9/11, when you questioned how the Bush Administration responded to the terrorist attacks by Al Qaeda, right-wing Republicans and liberal Democrats alike answered with a passive shrug. “Well,” they said, “we had to do something.

            Then you pressed about Bush’s specific responses—those somethings. Invading Afghanistan, which had nothing to do with 9/11. The USA-Patriot Act, which stripped away our rights and Congressmen didn’t bother to read. Guantánamo. Torture. Extraordinary rendition. Drones. Same reply: “We had to do something.”

Invading Iraq? Not that. Bush crossed his own line in the sand there.

Hamas’ violent incursion from the Israeli-occupied Gaza Strip into Israel—re-read the preceding prepositional phrase, for it encapsulates the insanity of the situation—was instantly described as Israel’s 9/11. Like the United States 22 years ago, Israel is not responding. It is reacting.

            They (feel that they) have to do something. That (feeling) is understandable.

            However, logic is supposed to kick in next. Israelis should ask themselves: Do they really have to do something?

            Did we, following 9/11?

            If so, if something must be done, there are many options. Must “doing something” include military force?

            In 2007, at the height of the “war on terror,” Harvard convened a panel of experts in order to evaluate Bush’s post-9/11 actions. Participants were asked: “Are terrorists simply insane, barbaric, nihilistic, as others have theorized?” Obviously not. “Terrorists want three things, Harvard political science professor and terrorism specialist Louise Richardson said: “revenge, renown, and reaction.”

Richardson argued that “to assume that being tough on terrorism means being effective against it” is a mistake. Trying to defeat terrorists through military means, she said, allows them to achieve revenge, renown, and reaction—exactly what they want. “By declaring war on terrorism, we’re playing exactly into their hands. We’re conceding the very objective they are trying to achieve.” The war on terror killed nearly a million people and cost $8 trillion. What a waste! From Shanksville to Kabul to Baghdad to the Be’eri Kibbutz, neither terrorism as a tactic generally nor radical Islamist terrorism specifically has lost an inch of ground.

America’s number-one client state is repeating our error.

            “There is a sense of helplessness, but we are all now trying to become proactive,” Aviram Meir, whose nephew was taken hostage by Hamas on October 7th, told an Israeli reporter. “We have to do something.”

            A normal impulse.

            A normal impulse that should be resisted.

Human animals,” Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant called members of Hamas as he, rather animalistically himself, announced that he would cut off food and water to 2.3 million people, 99.9999% of whom had no involvement in the Hamas attacks. His choice of words, so dehumanizing and redundant, is ironic. Taking a pause to think before you respond to sensory input—the difference between acting and reacting—is not only a big evolutionary advantage that human beings have over other animals, but the essence of what it means to be a civilized person.

Gallant and other Israelis howling for quick vengeance ought to refer to the psychologist Viktor Frankl, best known for “Man’s Search for Meaning,” a classic book informed by three years at Auschwitz. “Between stimulus and response,” Frankl wrote, there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom.”

Gallant aside, even the animals we choose to keep near us have this trait. An animal suited for domestication, scientists say, does not panic when startled.

Hamas’ October 7th operation was meticulously researched and planned. It is not even slightly likely that Hamas leadership did not foresee the Israeli response that we are seeing: a brutal bombing campaign followed by a massive ground invasion determined to replace the Hamas government with a puppet regime. Rule one of strategy: when you find yourself following a predictable set of actions, your enemy is winning.

Perhaps Hamas, like the Iraqi resistance in Fallujah, has rigged Gaza with boobytraps. Maybe Sunni Hamas has a regional ex deus machina up its sleeve, like a game-changing promise from Shia Hezbollah open up a second front against Israel, and/or a commitment from Syria, which could point to Israeli bombing of its civilian airports as casi bellis. And/or Hamas is playing a long game, in which Israel’s Geneva Conventions-shattering bombings of schools and hospitals, targeting of Palestinian children and other forms of internationally-proscribed collective punishment erase the memory of the atrocities committed by Hamas and decisively turn the world against the Jewish state.

If I were sitting in an Israeli war room planning my nation’s next move, I’d be worried sick about these possibilities/probabilities.

I would argue: there’s no rush to invade Gaza. Vengeance is a dish best served cold or at least after time to think.

There are numerous other options.

Israel could turn the power back on, let food and water back in and beef up its lame security along its border with Gaza. It could treat the attacks as a police matter and demand that Hamas turn over suspects for prosecution. It could jumpstart negotiations to finalize a two-state solution, which everyone knows is the only viable long-term solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It could embrace the wisdom of Nelson Mandela, who understood that a cycle of violence would never end unless one side, the side in charge that happened to be the African National Congress after he was elected president, declared amnesty so the country could move past apartheid. And if it finally did—after careful consideration—decide to invade Gaza, it could so with full knowledge and understanding of what form of governance would follow Hamas.

            Nothing is stupider than the blind urge to do something, anything, whatever, after an act of terror. Nothing leads to worse responses.

“We have to defend. We have to do something.” Those are the words of Maisa Khader, a 38-year-old chemist, in 2021. She was Palestinian, attending a pro-Hamas rally in Gaza. She was angry about Israel’s latest bombing blitz against the people of Gaza.

(Ted Rall (Twitter: @tedrall), the political cartoonist, columnist and graphic novelist, co-hosts the left-vs-right DMZ America podcast with fellow cartoonist Scott Stantis. You can support Ted’s hard-hitting political cartoons and columns and see his work first by sponsoring his work on Patreon.)

 

 

 

The Final Countdown – 10/12/23 – Israel Forms Union Government Ahead of Military Operation in Gaza

On this episode of The Final Countdown, hosts Angie Wong and Ted Rall discuss hot topics, including Israel’s new unity government. 
 

Dan Lazare – Independent journalist 

Aviv Bushinsky – Former Media Advisor and Chief of Staff for Netanyahu 
Dan Kovalik – Human rights, labor rights lawyer 
Lauren Fix – Auto Expert
 
The show kicks off with Independent journalist Dan Lazare joining The Final Countdown to share his insights on the newly nominated Steve Scalice and the likelihood he will gather enough votes to become the Speaker of the House. 
 
Then, Former media advisor and Chief of Staff for Netanyahu, Aviv Bushinsky, joins The Final Countdown to discuss Israel’s new unity government.  
 
The second hour begins with Human and labor rights lawyer Dan Kovalik sharing his perspective on RFK Jr.’s Super PAC raising $11 million.
 
The show closes with Auto Expert Lauren Fix sharing her perspective on the UAW Strike expanding to Kentucky. 
 
 
 

The Final Countdown – 10/11/23 – House Republicans Convene to Determine Kevin McCarthy’s Successor

On this episode of The Final Countdown, hosts Angie Wong and Ted Rall discuss breaking news, including the ongoing vote on the next House Speaker. 
 

Chris Widener – Founder of Red Referral Network 

Steve Hayes – Tax Attorney 
Ahmad Al-Bazz – Independent journalist & filmmaker 
Tyler Nixon – Army infantry veteran, Counselor-at-law 
 
The show begins with the Founder of Red Referral Network Chris Widener sharing his perspective on the upcoming change in House leadership, as GOP House members are meeting to vote on the next Speaker. 
 
ThenTax Attorney Steve Hayes joins The Final Countdown to discuss U.S. Representative George Santos facing a  23-count indictment over allegations of defrauding his donors. 
 
The second hour begins with Independent journalist & filmmaker Ahmad Al-Bazz sharing his perspective from Palestine about the ongoing situation in the region, and Israel’s war on Hamas. 
 
The show closes with Army infantry veteran and counselor-at-law, Tyler Nixon, who weighs in on Donald Trump’s U.K. lawsuit regarding a dossier leaked by a British intelligence firm. 

The Final Countdown – 10/10/23 – All Eyes on Israel and Gaza as Major Conflict Breaks Out

On this episode of The Final Countdown, hosts Angie Wong and Ted Rall discuss top news, including the war between Israel and Gaza.  

Issa Amro – Human Rights Defender, Founding member of non-violent organizations
Rachel Kastner – U.S. Citizen in Israel 
Mark Sleboda – International Relations and Security Analyst 
Ryan Cristian – Founder and Editor, Last American Vagabond 

 
The show kicks off with human rights activist Issa Amro who weighs in on the situation out of Gaza, and Hamas fighting with Israel. He discusses the conditions in Palestine amid Israel’s bombing of Gaza and shares his personal experiences as a Palestinian. 
 
Then, Rachel Kastner, a U.S. Citizen in Israel, provides context for what Israelis are feeling amid the Hamas attacks that have killed 1,000 and kidnapped over 100. She shares her own experience as an American living in Israel. 
 
The second hour begins with International Relations and Security Analyst Mark Sleboda weighing in on the war that Israel has declared on Hamas and provides an analysis of the military situation in the region. 
 
The show closes with Ryan Cristian, the founder, and editor of The Last American Vagabond, weighing in on Robert F. Kennedy Jr. running as an independent candidate for the 2024 U.S. presidency. 
 
 

DMZ America Podcast #120: Hamas Goes to War with Israel

Hamas fighters swarmed into Israel from the Occupied Gaza Strip, which has been subjected to a grinding economic blockade since 2007, killing Israeli civilians and soldiers and taking hostages. Political cartoonists Ted Rall (from the Left) and Scott Stantis (from the Right) debate the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the ramifications of what Israelis are calling their 9/11. Scott, an ardent defender of Israel, tries to find common ground with Ted, who supports Palestine’s independence struggle.

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DMZ America Podcast Ep120: Hamas Goes to War with Israel

Godzilla Has the Right to Defend Himself

After 11 days of relentless bombardment of the Gaza Strip, Israel finally signed onto a tentative ceasefire. Joe Biden repeated the standard line that Israel has the right to defend itself. But the extreme disparity of wealth and military power between Israel and the Palestinians makes that line a joke.

Kill Ratio

What are Israel and Hamas representatives discussing at talks to end the current conflict in Gaza? Israel wants Hamas in Gaza to be disarmed. Given the lopsided death count of civilians, 1900+ to 3, shouldn’t Israel be disarmed?

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