More on Karl Rove

Joseph writes:

I read your story about Karl Rove, and even though I’m a conservative, if Rove did indeed give over Wilson’s info to Time for political reasons, I absolutely agree with you. I think Rove is a dangerous fellow. He cares about winning, not people or principles, he cares about winning. If there were two drawbacks to enjoying the presidency of George W. Bush (which I do), it’s that Dick Cheney and Karl Rove are reprehensible.

Apparently losing two out of two wars isn’t a drawback. I’m afraid, though, that plausible deniability isn’t going to work here. Acting President Cheney is too much of a control freak to allow Rove to act on his own, and Bush isn’t smart enough to know that there are some things he’s better off not knowing about.

In my opinion, and this is purely opinion and guessing, Karl Rove is to George Bush what Ollie North is to Ronald Reagan. I’m pretty sure Reagan had no clue what North was doing, other than some slight sense of making deals. I have the same opinion of Bush and Rove. It’s not so much that I don’t think Bush can make mistakes, it’s just that Bush’s leadership style seems to give way to a guy like Rove doing something like this. Reagan trusted people to do their job and if he didn’t like the job, he’d just fire them, not try and run the program himself. Bush seems to be the same way, which means someone can hide a number of facts from him for quite a while before he ever finds out. Some people have tried to categorize this as stupidity, to me it’s just one style of leadership.

If Karl Rove did indeed jeopardize the life of an American agent, I agree with your column that execution might be justified. Not out of malice, but principally, it would be my head if I had done it, so why not his?

Well, just so. Though, as I’ve written before, I oppose capital punishment in general.

JF writes:

As to your comments on Rove, I spent the 4th protesting the president at West Virginia University. My mind was on Rove and of course Bush’s impeachment. There were a number of signs calling for Rove to be investigated both legally and through the press. I can’t go with you on the death penalty but the prick deserves to spend a ton of time behind bars if guilty…which I believe he is.

What is it going to take for thinking republicans…of which I’m sure there are many…to finally admit Bush and most of his cabinet are simply bad people and even worse leaders?

A good question. There are, of course, many thinking Republicans although it’s hard to imagine exactly how they can continue to justify supporting an institution run by racists, homophobes and other assorted bigots and thieves after they’ve exposed themselves as such time after time. It’s difficult to accept that one has been snookered, but you’ve got to do it eventually.

Finally, I love how republicans site newsweek as a bad source, as though the Koran story was ALL bullshit. Save for a few errors in practice, THE STORY TURNED OUT TO BE TRUE!!!

Yes.

If the press has anything of value left…the investigation of Rove in both contexts should begin today.

Yes again.

Keith writes:

In your article you mentioned you couldn’t think of
anyone on the left who had been convicted of aiding a
terrorist, what about Lynne Stewart?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15444-2005Feb10.html

Convicted of passing messages for the Sheik who
masterminded the first World Trade Center bombing.

The article even describes her as “the leftist
lawyer”.

Got me there, sorta—she’s a lawyer with liberal views, not a Michael Moore type leftie personality. I guess the reason I didn’t think of Ms. Stewart is because she so very clearly got railroaded. I don’t believe for an instant that she’s guilty, but of course I wasn’t on the jury so I don’t have all the facts.

Eric says:

I recall that Richard M. Nixon went kicking and screaming, kneeling in prayer and drinking heavily, before he submitted his resignation. Nixon never admitted any wrongdoing, and his cabal of treasonous supporters came out of the woodwork recently when Deep Throat revealed himself.
I correctly referred to the Bush regime as carpetbaggers years ago. In fact, all the words I used to describe Bush’s gang of thieves and cutthroats have ultimately found their way into mainstream journalism. I wonder why a simple dumbass Veteran of Vietnam, with only my experience, gut and average intelligence, knew at the start what the ‘experts’ are discovering now? Maybe it’s that great American tradition called ‘process.’ ‘They’ screw us at their whim, then the investigative and legal systems wait until the criminals find a wheelchair and an oxygen bottle as an excuse not to go to trial and the slammer.
George W. Bush will flee the country, Karl Rove not far behind. In an age of unprecedented in-your-face arrogance from the Bush misadministration, America will stand aghast at Bush’s self-imposed exile. Fifty percent of American voters, the Bush apologists, will lament, “Whoda thunk?” Jeb Bush will wage a Crusade to become president in 2008 in order to give George W. a presidential pardon.
George W. Bush will be able to receive e-mail at an undisclosed location in Saudi Arabia.

Eric’s email makes me warm and tingly.

And finally, from Steve:

“Karl Rove is pond scum on the gene pool.”

Let’s be fair to pond scum here, Ted and Pat. At least pond scum (much of it anyway) photosynthesizes, thereby removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and replacing it with oxygen. What has rove done for us lately?

Well, his propaganda has certainly been good for the environment. Thanks to him and Bush, 1,700-plus US soldiers and 180,000-plus Muslims are decomposing into fertilizer.

Karl Rove: Worse Than Osama

Americans are returning from the Independence Day holiday (and what a glorious day it was here in the northeast!) and are catching up on the outing of Karl Rove as the probable source of the treasonous leaking of Valerie Plame’s identity as a CIA operative as White House retaliation against her husband, Ambassador Joe Wilson, for debunking Bush’s lie about Saddam Hussein’s fictional attempt to buy uranium from Niger. Now the mail is coming in in response to my column:

Henry sez:

Will be pardoned by President Bush before he leaves office, probably a general pardon like the one given to Nixon. The timing will be determined by…Karl Rove, probably when there is good and distracting news from Iraq or on the War on Terror such as the capture/death of Osama or the conviction and sentencing of Saddam. At that point, Rove will be spun as an American patriot who, by his actions, made all this successful fight for freedom possible.
This may happen before or after Rove is indited by a grand jury but before a trial. The problem in the past was to delay the news until after Bush’s second inauguration. Now, no political harm can come to Bush. He can only be condemned for coming to the aid of a good friend who will turn out to be a national treasure in guiding our country. Rove will get clean away, always new it, still knows it, and is right. Arrogance, yes, but also careful calculation Before arrogance.

I dunno. It’s not like Bush to look out for people who’ve devoted themselves to him. Should Rove be expendable, Bush will let him do the perp walk.

tultalk@attglobal.net sez:

Where are you located. I may just come by an whack your knees for kicks.
Don’t want to wast too much gas though.
Bob Tulloch
XXXX Coon Hill Rd.
XXXX, MI XXXX

Sounds like Karl needs a cellmate.

Pat writes:

Thank you for finally publishing what I have been thinking about the Plame treason since 2003. Treason for partisan gain. The lowest form of treason. No honor. No duty. No patriotism. Greed! Personal political avarice. Karl Rove is pond scum on the gene pool.
Karl Rove, George W. Bush and Dick Chaney are a classic example of what George Washington warned us about in his farewell address as the first president of our nation. “Let me now take a more comprehensive view, & warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the Spirit of Party, generally.”
Partisan politics is a social disease in the body politics of America. Chronic and debilitating. Sometimes terminal. Let’s hope that is not the case this time.
thanks for being you. And keep on kickin ass.

LRichar525@aol.com writes:

Time for reason is over. Fuck you, you despicable bastard. Larry C Richardson, Auburn, Ca

bgillespey@austin.rr.com writes:

Ted, you’re an idiot. Simple enough?

Gee, and Republicans wonder why smart people don’t take them seriously?

Jim asks:

I just read your article at:
A question. In the complete absence of facts don’t you think you are being a bit precipitous with this kind of article?

What, as opposed to going to war over a complete absence of facts?

Seriously, though: I believe the Newsweek piece because it makes sense that Rove would be behind this, just as Wilson has said would be the case all along. More importantly, the White House has yet to issue a categorical denial. If Rove was innocent, they would have.

Andy asks:

Ted, Where is the public outcry concerning Karl Rove and the implicated leak? I have scanned CNN, MSNBC, and FoxNews.com…and cannot find mention of the Karl Rove leak. Are you just ahead of the newsbreak, did I miss it, or is it just being ignored?

CNN has covered it, though not extensively. Today’s NYT has a front cover story that dances around the identity of the leaker but revisits the Plame-Wilson story. I suspect the other MSM outlets are waiting to independently verify Newsweek’s source before running with it. This sucker is about to blow.

GOR Ira writes:

“…according to Newsweek, it indicates that Karl Rove himself made the call to Novak.” So you base all of your accusations against Rove on the same outfit that printed the Koran flushing story! The joy of reading your column is how unintentionally hilarious (if not factual) it is. After Rove is absolved I’m certain you’ll be big enough to publish and apology. Looking forward to it.

If one bad story were to forever doom a media outlet to irrelevance, not one would be credible. Oh, and: the Newsweek story about flushing Korans at Gitmo was true. Or hadn’t you heard?

Mike writes:

Just read it – love your work! Extremely well articulated point of view with which I am in total ageement.

Well, thanks!

Karl Rove: More anti-American Than Osama bin Laden
or, They Execute Traitors, Don’t They?

I’m generally opposed to the death penalty, but in Karl Rove’s case I could see my way clear to an exception.

At http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/lawrence-odonnell/rove-blew-cia-agents-cov_3556.html Lawrence O’Donnell reveals:

I revealed in yesterday’s taping of the McLaughlin Group that Time magazine’s emails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper’s source. I have known this for months but didn’t want to say it at a time that would risk me getting dragged into the grand jury.
McLaughlin is seen in some markets on Friday night, so some websites have picked it up, including Drudge, but I don’t expect it to have much impact because McLaughlin is not considered a news show and it will be pre-empted in the big markets on Sunday because of tennis.
Since I revealed the big scoop, I have had it reconfirmed by yet another highly authoritative source. Too many people know this. It should break wide open this week. I know Newsweek is working on an ‘It’s Rove!’ story and will probably break it tomorrow.

Indeed, Newsweek has this at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8445696/site/newsweek/:

The e-mails surrendered by Time Inc., which are largely between [Time reporter] Cooper and his editors, show that one of Cooper’s sources was White House deputy chief of staff Karl Rove, according to two lawyers who asked not to be identified because they are representing witnesses sympathetic to the White House.

Title 18, Part I, Chapter 115, paragraph 2381 of the United States Code reads:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Reads a lot like the definition of someone who unmasks a CIA operative (Valerie Plame) for rank political gain, doesn’t it?

Of course, if this is true, odds are that this goes straight to the top, to Piehole his own self. Can you really buy Rove acting without authorization? If so, there’s no time for a lengthy impeachment process. The feds should burst into the White House, throw a bag over his head, stick him in an orange jumpsuit and drag him off to Guantánamo–or “render” him to a “friendly” country like Uzbekistan or Syria–for a lengthy session with our “humane” torturers.

The only questions now are:

Do Republicans have a shred of patriotism or loyalty to American legal principles left?

and

Do Democrats have the slightest spine left?

They released this stuff over a somnolent July 4th weekend, but if there’s any sanity we won’t be talking about much else during the coming days. This is huge, even bigger than Justice O’Connor’s replacement and certainly worse than anything Richard Nixon or Bill Clinton ever did to merit impeachment. Rove’s head isn’t enough. Not that the Administration doesn’t deserve prosecution on everything from war crimes to obstruction of justice, but the Rove-Plame connection ought to be enough to stop this charade of a faux government once and for all.

Ted Rall Merchandise Returns!

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Now It Begins

What a week–first the Bush Administration starts sabre-rattling with Iran over the possibility that their president-elect was one of the hostage-takers at the 1979 embassy seizure in Teheran. Now Justice Sandra Day O’Connor is resigning, setting the stage for a wholesale nuclear option meltdown in the Senate. No doubt about it, Bush will look to replace this moderate swing voter with a hard-line right-winger. Sadly, the Democrats will squawk loudly only to roll over in the end, as they always do…or maybe not. Either way, buckle your seatbelts. Bush never misses a chance to avoid a confrontation.

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Stranger Reaction

Sandy from Utah writes:

My nephew Tom in Kansas sent me your article. Thanks for putting into words what many of us are feeling. I was with Quakers that held signs of peace and pleads for not invading Iraq. The fact that everything has been mismanaged and costly in terms of money and mostly lives continues to sicken me. However, you missed an important point: This is slowly becoming a Bush war with an invitation for a “Holy War”. I live where Evangelicals are plentiful and their mantra remains joyful. Yes, these new age “Christians” are pleased that Muslim are dropping along with our Amreican hero/ soldiers…go figure? I fear that REAL trouble hasn’t even shown its ugly face. Thanks for your well written article….please keep it up.

Reading the above makes me shudder in fear that many Americans are clinically insane. Could it be true? Does anyone really want a holy war between the Christianists and Islam? What good could possible come out of it? Still, it’s obviously a phenomenon that we need to keep track of.

A Libbie Quandry

Dave writes:

On one hand, you have upholding the protection of First Amendment rights for the press and the protection of confidential sources for journalists. On the other hand, you really, really want to know who was involved in leaking the identity of Valerie Plame, with the fervent hope that it shows a direct path back to Karl Rove and the Oval Office…
What’s a liberal to do?
Personally, I think this is why douchebag of liberty, Bob Novak isn’t being bothered in all this. No liberal would really give a rats ass about protecting his rights. (Proper credit to Jon Stewart and the Daily Show for providing the greatest nickname in all of political punditry)

Ah, so true. The other quandry: standing up for the New York Times’ Judith Miller’s right to protect confidential sources while ignoring the fact that she played as important a role in getting us into Iraq as Karl Rove.

The Stranger

The Stranger, the alternative weekly newspaper in Seattle, has asked me to write a piece reacting to being proven right about the war in Iraq.

Yes.

Bill notes:

I watch and listen to the right-wing corporate media outlets just to get a feel for what kind of propaganda or distraction they are trying to present. The latest has got to be that girl from Alabama who disappeared in Jamaica. I feel bad for the girl and her family but how the fuck is this national headline news? I noticed that Fox seemed to be the first to lead with this story and the rest of the corporate media just seemed to follow suit. Nothing like a missing blonde haired girl to distract people from being outraged about a failing war that’s losing support.

You’re right about Fox. Even cynical moi was amazed to see O’Reilly spend the better part of 20 minutes on the Aruba story on the same day that Republican Congressmen were calling for the Gitmo concentration camp to be shut down. Paranthetical: Closing Gitmo would merely lead to more outsourcing of torture. Closing BUSH down is the best way to start restoring some semblance of decency to US foreign policy… State-controlled media has traveled so far down the path of total obeisance that it’s now forced to ignore the day’s top story in favor of manufactured tripe.