Jon Stewart’s Million Moderate Match mosies into Washington October 30. Be there, or not, whatever, does it matter?
Highlights from the Million Moderate March
Ted Rall
Ted Rall is a syndicated political cartoonist for Andrews McMeel Syndication and WhoWhatWhy.org and Counterpoint. He is a contributor to Centerclip and co-host of "The Final Countdown" talk show on Radio Sputnik. He is a graphic novelist and author of many books of art and prose, and an occasional war correspondent. He is, recently, the author of the graphic novel "2024: Revisited."
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The two events with Stewart and Colbert of is imo best understood as a sort of comment on Glenn Becks event some time earlier.
I agree, this event is more satire than actually political.
I like Stewart although he does that “let’s criticize both sides” crap sometimes.
The only annyoing thing I remember about Jon on the Daily Show, was when he apparantly spoke with as a matter-of-fact tone, of how the american civil war was a war against slavery. I am no expert, but at the very least, such a statement is ambigious. Surely that war was not really about slavery, but as it went on I guess alot of people or politicians would want to think that way. And in so far as slavery was a real problem to be dealt with, I suspect the free labour of the south was an issue for the union economically. I read about this stuff a couple of decades ago, and I got the impression that trade /financial/economical concerns were important factors about how the states behaved before, during and after the american civil war.
Hm, it just occurred to me that I might not know what I am talking about. I guess that my comment above where I wrote “(…)not really about slavery” is a very unclear statement. I guess I have to try hunt down that episode of the Daily Show and correct myself. 😛
All I remember is that Jon had a funny bit where he advertised something like “Union History Month” and called the war “The War of Southern Aggression.”
Yes, that was the only clip I found that I thought would explain why I had something against the man. I think he made alot of sense in that clip, so I suspect that I have misunderstood something he said.
Albert is right when he says this march is nothing more than a satirical statement.
However, a valid criticism can be made of Mr Stewart where he recently characterised the Greek situation as “crazy”. Considering the bankruptcy and austerity measures that the Greeks are facing, it is sadly the logical thing to do for the ordinary Greek voter to march rather than see themselves get run under the rich’s war for ideological austerity.
May we please initiate the Greek option here in the United States?
sadly the logical thing to do for the ordinary Greek voter to march rather than see themselves get run under the rich’s war for ideological austerity. No, the logical thing for them to do is quit looking to the government for a handout.
logical thing for them to do is quit looking to the government for a handout.
Then are we supposed to set up our own local schools and police forces on our own?
Neighbourhood militias in lieu of police departments? Church schools with the local reverend/father teaching instead of real math, English and science teachers?
US395 said:
No, the logical thing for [Goldman Sachs] to do is quit looking to the government for a handout.
couldn’t agree more
Yeah TLW, I hated when Stewart did that as well. He was comparing them to the batshit crazy teabaggers here in the US. The two groups protest for different reasons. Despite having a mostly funny show, I hate it when Stewart does that stupid equating the right and left. I turned off the tv and went to sleep at that point.
Then are we supposed to set up our own local schools and police forces on our own?
TLW,
Yes. Education is a state function. So is law enforcement, with the exception of federal laws.
@US 395: State government is still government, your response is thus a non-answer as far as what the Greek situation entails. Unless you are indirectly suggesting that Greece should suddenly create a bunch of states each with their own state constitutions and divert national government programs into the hands of these states while implying that this meaningless increase in total bureaucracy would magically solve all of Greece’s problems.
Or is it that when TLW used “we” you assumed that this could only be inferred to mean Americans and not other people elsewhere or even “we” as in “we the non-uber rich people of the world”?
Good thing we (Americans, the only people that US 395 acknowledges can actually be people) have state governments with their perceived magic powers that allow them to be superior to national governments and free from all government bureaucracy problems while also not subject to conservative criticism of public services. No wonder we are number one, we have supernaturally functioning state governments while the rest of the world only has inherently flawed and mundane national and local ones.
someone,
I was answering the specific question (Then are we supposed to set up our own local schools and police forces on our own? about “we”. I assumed “we” meant Americans.
The problem the Greeks have is not because of their form of government. The problem they have is too many people depending on the government for their income or retirement. We have the same problem here, especially in California where CALPERS is has a shortfall of $500 billion in taxpayer guaranteed pension payouts.
You folks are ranting like the “austerity” measures the Greeks are having to swallow is no police and no schools. Nothing could be further from the truth. A little honesty, please, if your ideology allows it.